sunny
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Post by sunny on Nov 10, 2015 13:44:49 GMT
IMO this is the commencement of a bidding war. OK so say there is a "bidding war". Do you think the bids will be drastically different than what is being offered now? Do you think PW went with Astellas because it was the lowest he thought he could get or the highest. It is more logical to assume, imo, that PW knows what other big pharmas were willing to bid for OCAT (if anything) and went with Astellas because they gave the best price. Your thoughts are very reasonable, this news piece is in good alignment with the AAO in Vegas. And if I remember REGN and Baush&Lomb will be at the table.
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Post by actcfan on Nov 10, 2015 13:47:50 GMT
IMO this is the commencement of a bidding war. Very unlikely IMO. According to the PR and 8K the board is behind the deal. Very unusual for someone not already involved (existing partner, activist, etc) to swoop in when management is already in bed with someone else. Of course StemD and others just don't quit, spreading these same kind of ideas. Getting people's hopes up because they refuse to face reality, even now. We always knew it would be a challenge getting this s to market and it's clear this management wasn't up to the task. It's sad that they'll get rewarded for failure.
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Post by greatceasarsghost on Nov 10, 2015 13:48:17 GMT
YES!! Gary Rabin with the ultimate LONG PLAY. He's finally introduced us to our Chinese partners....or Japanese rulers, whichever...
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Post by harlem on Nov 10, 2015 13:52:26 GMT
I am down fifteen percent and mgt has screwed retail investors. Institutions will vote with mgt and realize a nice profit in a matter of a few months, mgt will reset the pps for themselves and walk away with a bundle and I will have a stock loss instead of a new car. The fat lady sings what for me is a sad aria and my wishes for mgt I will keep to myself.
To Jham, managers and members of this bd I thank you and wish you well.
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Post by selluwud on Nov 10, 2015 13:52:35 GMT
Funny thoughts for JCKRDU, when will this morning's gap fill. LOL
that's not a gap, it's a portal to the abyss.
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Post by Wallace907 on Nov 10, 2015 13:54:42 GMT
YES!! Gary Rabin with the ultimate LONG PLAY. He's finally introduced us to our Chinese partners....or Japanese rulers, whichever... he did say that the stock would "eventually go vertical"
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Post by harlem on Nov 10, 2015 13:55:23 GMT
A bidding war??? if BP were at the table I would be holding a Bluebird instead of eating crow. imo
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Post by myocata on Nov 10, 2015 13:56:41 GMT
Man, I always hope for an eventual buy out. But it's not at this price.
Congrats to those who hold just a tad long to reap the 79% increase.
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Post by selluwud on Nov 10, 2015 13:57:41 GMT
YES!! Gary Rabin with the ultimate LONG PLAY. He's finally introduced us to our Chinese partners....or Japanese rulers, whichever... he did say that the stock would "eventually go vertical" How many shares does GR own? He will be able to open a new restaurant now.
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Post by Wallace907 on Nov 10, 2015 13:59:50 GMT
he did say that the stock would "eventually go vertical" How many shares does GR own? He will be able to open a new restaurant now. im sure those were sold the minute he signed his exit papers lol.
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Post by selluwud on Nov 10, 2015 14:00:40 GMT
Hey, PW did say we would have JV for non-core assets by EOY? I guess the whole of OCAT is non-core. LOL
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Post by greatceasarsghost on Nov 10, 2015 14:01:19 GMT
I think the real question, and I don't think I've seen it asked yet, is what do you think Lanza is thinking?
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Post by jckrdu on Nov 10, 2015 14:03:46 GMT
Funny thoughts for JCKRDU, when will this morning's gap fill. LOL that's not a gap, it's a portal to the abyss.
After 7 years, ACTC/OCAT may finally have its first gap that never fills!
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Post by tunis on Nov 10, 2015 14:04:44 GMT
I think the real question, and I don't think I've seen it asked yet, is what do you think Lanza is thinking? More dinosaur bones?
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Post by JHam on Nov 10, 2015 14:17:30 GMT
For any iCell duel members, I am copying and pasting this post from reknowned OCAT perma-bull stemdynasty. I figured this kind of crap would eventually get posted. What a load of garbage. How many times has he ever been right in the past 5 years? This is utter nonsense imo, and I sincerely hope no one on that site (or here) believes this:
There will be a bidding war. Mark my words. Pfizer will be at the table. How can they not wait 6 months for the readout and get a much higher price. I told you out chairman of the board sold every single company he ever was on the board. The price makes no sense. Lanza did all this for Japan? I doubt it. More to come. The only good thing to come out of this is the shorts are going to feel serious pain. People were wondering why we only lost a few percent after hearing PW and Eddy failed to inject and the short percentage was low even after admitting they dropped the ball. We were set up. Bottom line they stalled trials. They held off adding clinical sites. They held off on SPA. They never had a JV. I believe Pfizer and Regeneron will make an offer. Vote no, regardless. Jmho
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Post by actcfan on Nov 10, 2015 14:24:05 GMT
For any iCell duel members, I am copying and pasting this post from reknowned OCAT perma-bull stemdynasty. I figured this kind of crap would eventually get posted. What a load of garbage. How many times has he ever been right in the past 5 years? This is utter nonsense imo, and I sincerely hope no one on that site (or here) believes this: There will be a bidding war. Mark my words. Pfizer will be at the table. How can they not wait 6 months for the readout and get a much higher price. I told you out chairman of the board sold every single company he ever was on the board. The price makes no sense. Lanza did all this for Japan? I doubt it. More to come. The only good thing to come out of this is the shorts are going to feel serious pain. People were wondering why we only lost a few percent after hearing PW and Eddy failed to inject and the short percentage was low even after admitting they dropped the ball. We were set up. Bottom line they stalled trials. They held off adding clinical sites. They held off on SPA. They never had a JV. I believe Pfizer and Regeneron will make an offer. Vote no, regardless. JmhoBelieve it or not Jham it gets better. (Or worse) the guy is saying I told you so. After being wrong post after post and year after year he actually wrote the words "I told you so". Unreal "How many times did I say we need to break up the company? To all those that called me an armchair CEO for being vocal about this very thing possibly happening.....I told you so. What bothers me most is that all this technology is going to Japan. How can they not get a billion from a 30BB dollar company? You want to get more pissed? The photoreceptor paper is coming out very soon!!! The only justice we get is Mako and their band of thieves are getting crushed. Notice the volume and it is right about the share price being offered. This never happens unless there are shorts covering. No one would buy for .10 profit or this close to the offering price. There is usually a much wider spread. So now Pfizer is screwed, because they will be challenged on the ip. Biotime is also in dire straights. I really hope to see Pfizer jump in. Many of us said there would be a bidding war if this happened. We will find out if we called it."
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Post by JHam on Nov 10, 2015 14:28:24 GMT
For any iCell duel members, I am copying and pasting this post from reknowned OCAT perma-bull stemdynasty. I figured this kind of crap would eventually get posted. What a load of garbage. How many times has he ever been right in the past 5 years? This is utter nonsense imo, and I sincerely hope no one on that site (or here) believes this: There will be a bidding war. Mark my words. Pfizer will be at the table. How can they not wait 6 months for the readout and get a much higher price. I told you out chairman of the board sold every single company he ever was on the board. The price makes no sense. Lanza did all this for Japan? I doubt it. More to come. The only good thing to come out of this is the shorts are going to feel serious pain. People were wondering why we only lost a few percent after hearing PW and Eddy failed to inject and the short percentage was low even after admitting they dropped the ball. We were set up. Bottom line they stalled trials. They held off adding clinical sites. They held off on SPA. They never had a JV. I believe Pfizer and Regeneron will make an offer. Vote no, regardless. JmhoBelieve it or not Jham it gets better. (Or worse) the guy is saying I told you so. After being wrong post after post and year after year he actually wrote the words "I told you so". Unreal "How many times did I say we need to break up the company? To all those that called me an armchair CEO for being vocal about this very thing possibly happening.....I told you so. What bothers me most is that all this technology is going to Japan. How can they not get a billion from a 30BB dollar company? You want to get more pissed? The photoreceptor paper is coming out very soon!!! The only justice we get is Mako and their band of thieves are getting crushed. Notice the volume and it is right about the share price being offered. This never happens unless there are shorts covering. No one would buy for .10 profit or this close to the offering price. There is usually a much wider spread. So now Pfizer is screwed, because they will be challenged on the ip. Biotime is also in dire straights. I really hope to see Pfizer jump in. Many of us said there would be a bidding war if this happened. We will find out if we called it." LOL! And now this just in, from Ceasar himself...: Hi Dave,
I am a Capitalist Pig, and I emphasized it from the very beginning. I am as surprised not by the offer, but the company that has made the first move, to offer a takeover of Ocata. Please note that this is my #2 Option that could happen. My number one is a JV. Obviously, my number one preference did not happen. But, I know exactly what to do, in the event that an acquisition happened,
I believe I understand the offer that Ocata's Board could not refuse. And, now we have new data points to consider that will allow me to understand exactly what has happened.
This was totally unexpected by most of the shorts, and many of our traders here at ICell. StemDynasty had been warning about this for at least a year, and now that it is here... then it is time for me to implement my next investment move.
As far as I am concerned, this is part of making money in the market. We should always be prepared to move on a dime. This is the best I can tell you at this time.
CDC
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Post by greatceasarsghost on Nov 10, 2015 14:36:35 GMT
Believe it or not Jham it gets better. (Or worse) the guy is saying I told you so. After being wrong post after post and year after year he actually wrote the words "I told you so". Unreal "How many times did I say we need to break up the company? To all those that called me an armchair CEO for being vocal about this very thing possibly happening.....I told you so. What bothers me most is that all this technology is going to Japan. How can they not get a billion from a 30BB dollar company? You want to get more pissed? The photoreceptor paper is coming out very soon!!! The only justice we get is Mako and their band of thieves are getting crushed. Notice the volume and it is right about the share price being offered. This never happens unless there are shorts covering. No one would buy for .10 profit or this close to the offering price. There is usually a much wider spread. So now Pfizer is screwed, because they will be challenged on the ip. Biotime is also in dire straights. I really hope to see Pfizer jump in. Many of us said there would be a bidding war if this happened. We will find out if we called it." LOL! And now this just in, from Ceasar himself...: Hi Dave,
I am a Capitalist Pig, and I emphasized it from the very beginning. I am as surprised not by the offer, but the company that has made the first move, to offer a takeover of Ocata. Please note that this is my #2 Option that could happen. My number one is a JV. Obviously, my number one preference did not happen. But, I know exactly what to do, in the event that an acquisition happened,
I believe I understand the offer that Ocata's Board could not refuse. And, now we have new data points to consider that will allow me to understand exactly what has happened.
This was totally unexpected by most of the shorts, and many of our traders here at ICell. StemDynasty had been warning about this for at least a year, and now that it is here... then it is time for me to implement my next investment move.
As far as I am concerned, this is part of making money in the market. We should always be prepared to move on a dime. This is the best I can tell you at this time.
CDCMy god, Lanza woke up with a T-Rex head in his bed.
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Post by JHam on Nov 10, 2015 14:38:57 GMT
I promise I am not trying to be an @$$, but most of iCell is grasping at straws. I guess I would be too if I spent a better part of a decade convinced I was obviously going to make millions and millions.
Many there are complaining that this happened before any P2 data results were announced. When in my opinion, that is exactly why this likely happened now. Because OCAT knew they were not going to start (or be able to finish) P2 in the first place. It's also why some here did not get so excited over the SPA application announcement. There is a big difference between stating that you plan to apply for a SPA and it actually being a done deal.
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Post by harlem on Nov 10, 2015 14:44:43 GMT
The good news for icellers is they can stop paying ten dollars a month for crappy kool aide unless they have a "YEN" to follow a Japanese company. Sorry for pun but I could not resist. glta
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