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Post by hophead on Dec 31, 2014 19:09:29 GMT
They sure as hell made sure they crushed the pps anytime it actually tried to appreciate for once. What a joke. This was while they were selling shares to the scum lincoln. Couldn't even figure out that concept properly. These guys are the epitome of inept. Any monkey could've done a reverse split. Especially when you have lemmings acting as shareholders approving any request by the idiots in charge for more shares, a reverse split for no reason and a ridiculous reward package for said idiots in charge. Myles especially should be embarrassed and give back everything he's made from this company. Anglade should too for stalling the trials instead of actually injecting. And same for wonton who only successfully dumped a bucket of water on his head and flubbed everything else up alomg the way especially the results release and the offering. Pathetic.
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Post by ignorantsilver on Dec 31, 2014 19:24:26 GMT
They sure as hell made sure they crushed the pps anytime it actually tried to appreciate for once. What a joke. This was while they were selling shares to the scum lincoln. Couldn't even figure out that concept properly. These guys are the epitome of inept. Any monkey could've done a reverse split. Especially when you have lemmings acting as shareholders approving any request by the idiots in charge for more shares, a reverse split for no reason and a ridiculous reward package for said idiots in charge. Myles especially should be embarrassed and give back everything he's made from this company. Anglade should too for stalling the trials instead of actually injecting. And same for wonton who only successfully dumped a bucket of water on his head and flubbed everything else up alomg the way especially the results release and the offering. Pathetic. It's the effing kool-aid drinking lemming shareholders that piss me off me off most, continually writing these clowns a blank check. You'd think after the 100th time of being screwed over, idiot share holders would wise up and not give management carte blanche to do whatever they want. Unfortunately, they are the archetypal ass with a carrot dangled in front of them. |
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Post by darkest on Dec 31, 2014 19:33:40 GMT
They sure as hell made sure they crushed the pps anytime it actually tried to appreciate for once. What a joke. This was while they were selling shares to the scum lincoln. Couldn't even figure out that concept properly. These guys are the epitome of inept. Any monkey could've done a reverse split. Especially when you have lemmings acting as shareholders approving any request by the idiots in charge for more shares, a reverse split for no reason and a ridiculous reward package for said idiots in charge. Myles especially should be embarrassed and give back everything he's made from this company. Anglade should too for stalling the trials instead of actually injecting. And same for wonton who only successfully dumped a bucket of water on his head and flubbed everything else up alomg the way especially the results release and the offering. Pathetic. It's the effing kool-aid drinking lemming shareholders that piss me off me off most, continually writing these clowns a blank check. You'd think after the 100th time of being screwed over, idiot share holders would wise up and not give management carte blanche to do whatever they want. Unfortunately, they are the archetypal ass being led by a carrot on a string dangled in front of them. I think a lot of people that own this stock have locked themselves into an insane vision. They have fastened themselves to a position they cannot withdraw from lest they lose face with all the "friends and family" they roped into this mad view. They can only buy more and more and more. Taking everyone they sold this mad vision down with them. If anything it's very interesting psychologically. Especially given that the overall market has just about tripled in the last 5 years. How I would hang my head in shame in front of my "friends and family" if I unleashed this mess on them. These people cannot blame management for their own failures in judgement. Nobody is holding a gun to their heads forcing them to keep buying the stock. |
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Post by stemboat on Dec 31, 2014 19:49:40 GMT
CM, I look at it this way...
The loud negative noise is positive.
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Post by i(n) sight on Dec 31, 2014 19:54:46 GMT
Why do you think nobody wants to buy the offering of this company? Things like this. And they still do it lol. A new retail sucker every day thinking they're going to be filthy rich when it goes to $1 oops $100 now. Meanwhile wall street laughs at the company and its shareholders. Time to go party. Happy New Year.  Enjoy your party! Now, don't forget to go to the STEM board and do another public service announcement about failures. Some of us have no idea how we would survive without you and your buddies! LOL! Happy New Year! Over and out! |
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Post by stemboat on Dec 31, 2014 21:29:30 GMT
Most of the posts on this forum provide no evidence that Ocata, or any company for that matter, should have any reason to interact with, nevermind trust, the posters here.
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Post by HeyNow on Dec 31, 2014 22:57:11 GMT
You crazies are a joke. Have a great new year boys. Highlite of your year? Talking shit online to people trying to make them feel like failures. And, you don't have the balls to post under one idenitty because you have yet to find it in life. Have fun converting your 5% gains on a few bucks all year whilst talking smack 24/7 and losing the farm on your less public trades - next stop retirement and passing to family business off to the kids eh?
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Post by vvvortex on Jan 1, 2015 1:26:32 GMT
They sure as hell made sure they crushed the pps anytime it actually tried to appreciate for once. What a joke. This was while they were selling shares to the scum lincoln. Couldn't even figure out that concept properly. These guys are the epitome of inept. Any monkey could've done a reverse split. Especially when you have lemmings acting as shareholders approving any request by the idiots in charge for more shares, a reverse split for no reason and a ridiculous reward package for said idiots in charge. Myles especially should be embarrassed and give back everything he's made from this company. Anglade should too for stalling the trials instead of actually injecting. And same for wonton who only successfully dumped a bucket of water on his head and flubbed everything else up alomg the way especially the results release and the offering. Pathetic. It's the effing kool-aid drinking lemming shareholders that piss me off me off most, continually writing these clowns a blank check. You'd think after the 100th time of being screwed over, idiot share holders would wise up and not give management carte blanche to do whatever they want. Unfortunately, they are the archetypal ass with a carrot dangled in front of them. I'm just wondering why it should even affect you? If your short and you want the company to fail, then more power to you. At least be honest about it. You are betting on the company failing and others are passionate about the company succeeding. Why should they "piss you off"? It's their money. |
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Post by vvvortex on Jan 1, 2015 1:43:21 GMT
Here you are back accusing me of being someone else. Take it to Yahoo. At least back up some of your dribble. How is was this rigging the competition? This IS the Yahoo board...discounting the handful of children posters (where every post is the equivalent of "Ocata executives and iCell posters are poopie-heads"), most people here are more subtle about wanting Ocata to fail. The subtlety comes in the "objective" reasoned posts that have an obvious negative slant while ignoring any positives. |
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Post by stemwinder on Jan 1, 2015 1:48:28 GMT
Twenty2 has had an in person 1-on--1 relationship with Matt, I believe limited to shareholder meetings in CA and I believe for at least 3 years. So Matt knows who 22 is, his phone, email, and personal credentials, DO NOT CONSIDER ME in your WE, I would rather be pissed on by an alligator. What you say WE want is short sighted and very far removed from my visiion of the best long term interests of patients and long term investors. "That goofball?"- who the hell do you think you are with this name calling. Proof read your posts so as to avoid projecting yourself in such a negative light. You know, you have an irritating habit of showing up here occasionally to castigate other posters in your snooty way, while adding absolutely nothing to any debate.
What got this little storm in a tea cup started was you making the statement "Most of the posts on this forum provide no evidence that Ocata, or any company for that matter, should have any reason to interact with, nevermind trust, the posters here."
What could you mean by this? You seem to be suggesting that if we were somehow well behaved little boys and girls who sat still in class, brushed our teeth and took our lead from teachers pet Stemboat, then somehow Ocata would perhaps want to interact with, or somehow trust posters here? Is that what you were saying? You really believe that? Why would you even want that?
What my response was pointing out is that rather than wasting their time posting on a message board, they should (for once) concentrate on meeting commitments, and actually increase the value of the company. How could that be a bad thing?
But no, you come back in your inimitable way by saying you would rather be pissed on by alligators than be grouped in the same box with message board ruffians like me.
You make the statement that what I said is short sighted and far removed from your vision of the best interests of patients and long term investors.
Okay, Mr Smartypants, tell me how meeting commitments and hence increasing the value of the company is in conflict with your long term vision or that of the patients? Also, remember that I did not say meeting commitments and increasing the value of company were my only goals for this company.
As to twenty2, I have seen plenty of his posts and agree that goofball was a bit harsh. Message board eccentric would have been better.
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Post by elk on Jan 1, 2015 14:30:18 GMT
This IS the Yahoo board...discounting the handful of children posters (where every post is the equivalent of "Ocata executives and iCell posters are poopie-heads"), most people here are more subtle about wanting Ocata to fail. The subtlety comes in the "objective" reasoned posts that have an obvious negative slant while ignoring any positives. Agree with you here vvvortex. |
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Post by JHam on Jan 2, 2015 5:23:02 GMT
At least back up some of your dribble. How is was this rigging the competition? This IS the Yahoo board...discounting the handful of children posters (where every post is the equivalent of "Ocata executives and iCell posters are poopie-heads"), most people here are more subtle about wanting Ocata to fail. The subtlety comes in the "objective" reasoned posts that have an obvious negative slant while ignoring any positives. vvortex, Generalize much? So you joined a few days ago just to tell us that? Give me a break. The negative slant is because that is reality. Do you think shareholders should be cheerleading this company after the debacle (among many debacles) that just occurred at the end of the year? No one wants to see this company fail, that is just ridiculous. But the reality is, besides the reverse split, the company did not meet any of the important milestones they said they would by the end of 2014. What should we say? Nice job fellas? I disagree. This is not anything remotely like the Yahoo board. What makes the Yahoo board...unique?...annoying?...are the nonsense basher/pumper threads and posts, or racist, sexist, grotesque threads that have nothing to do with the stock of that particular forum. Sure we kind of tell it like it is here. That is just how it goes and how it has always been since the Google Board. If you don't like it you don't have to stay. |
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Post by selluwud on Jan 2, 2015 12:57:49 GMT
At least back up some of your dribble. How is was this rigging the competition? This IS the Yahoo board...discounting the handful of children posters (where every post is the equivalent of "Ocata executives and iCell posters are poopie-heads"), most people here are more subtle about wanting Ocata to fail. The subtlety comes in the "objective" reasoned posts that have an obvious negative slant while ignoring any positives. Back in the day, when people didn't like what they were reading, they would go burn a book. Great philosophy |
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Post by vzveteran on Jan 2, 2015 12:58:08 GMT
At least back up some of your dribble. How is was this rigging the competition? This IS the Yahoo board...discounting the handful of children posters (where every post is the equivalent of "Ocata executives and iCell posters are poopie-heads"), most people here are more subtle about wanting Ocata to fail. The subtlety comes in the "objective" reasoned posts that have an obvious negative slant while ignoring any positives. "The subtlety comes in the "objective" reasoned posts that have an obvious negative slant while ignoring any positives. " The exact same reasoning is evident elsewhere. I enjoy and respect some of the posters on the other boards, and I would never paint with a such a broad brush, the entire site, for the ones I don't. Not that a post like yours vvvortex, would remain up for long anyway. I'm surprised actually, at your disrespect for this site. I expected more. |
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Post by darkest on Jan 2, 2015 14:03:46 GMT
"The problem is you continue to defend Bullard when he was wrong. If cataracts were the problems of these patients I think one of the top ophthalmic centers in the world would have recognized that as the cause of their poor visual acuity. Did patients develop cataracts because of the procedure? Yes. And that is a well known complication of the procedure."This paragraph explains why we are so far apart on this. It isn't a matter of him being right or wrong. That is why you and some others get so hung up on this and I don't. It wasn't a scientific paper, it was an opinion piece. He intentionally didn't say definitively one way or another. Specifically, he did not say that cataracts were the problem for these patients, you did. What he said is that there is data out there listed on the NIH website showing that cataract surgery could have an impact when measuring visual acuity results in an AMD trial. He then explains how Ocata's touted prize patient also had cataracts/cataract surgery and proposes that it could have an impact on the results. And at the very least, whether cataracts truly have an impact or not, that the market could poo-poo the results if they know that the prize patient also had cataract complications/surgery before the trial. He didn't say without a doubt that it would or it wouldn't. He wasn't writing in absolutes saying that he is right and this is for sure what will happen. He said there is a chance and then let's the reader decide for themselves whether or not they feel if it is pertinent or a potential issue. The problem is you continue to attack him when you are misinterpreting the article. That is why I defend him. "In terms of conflict of interest you never responded if you had an ongoing dialog with Bullard about his articles and when he would publish them. Even Horus sent you a screenshot of a comment he made on Seeking Alpha that Bullard sited a private email from you. And Bullard even claimed that he talks to you regularly."What do you mean? I have never tried to hide the fact that Bullard and I are friends. I have said that from the beginning and not sure why that is a big deal. He has taught me a ton and I am very appreciative of all the time he has spent dumbifying things for me over the years.
"And you won't even admit if you have knowledge before he writes one of his hit pieces; and yes, they are hit pieces with many errors in them that a lay person reading them could and would become confused. And could be used to manipulate the share price."I don't "admit" anything, because there is nothing to admit. Just because you and a handful of others think this is somehow important, it isn't. It is obviously a damned if I do damned if I don't situation on something that has zero relevance. Instead of giving those foolish enough to think there is something of relevance there fuel to feed their silly agenda/conspiracy theories, I chose not to answer. Bullard and I talk about all sorts of things. If something we talked about eventually makes it into a SA article I am not surprised, because at some point in the past we probably discussed it. No different than how none of you here would be in the wrong if I decided to suddenly write an SA article about something we have discussed somewhere on this board at some point. Hell, a few months ago on the ONCS Yahoo board, one of the posters even said he was writing a positive SA article to be published soon and was asking people to help contribute any information to it. Everyone knew it was coming and guess what, no one cared. Not even those shorting the stock. Guess what else. I had been accumulating shares long before, at the time of, and after the SA article publication. After it was published, the pps even rose a little bit. Should I have felt guilty for buying shares before I knew an article was about to be published? Of course not. I can't control when and what he writes about. Just like I can't with Bullard. As I have said in the past, I have never timed a trade based on any kind pre-knowledge of a SA article publication with any of the stocks I follow. Either you believe me or you don't, but that is not something I am concerned about since it doesn't have any relevance to anything. "You can hem and haw about this but you were the only one supporting his baseless, erroneous assertions. And to say he's not a scumbag because he makes money in the market is laughable."I was not the only one, but definitely in the minority. That only confirmed some of our thoughts about how "open-minded" the Ocata cult is. He is a scumbag because he does well in his investment decisions? I wouldn't want to answer people in the comment section of SA or here on this board either when people misinterpret my article and call me names.
hey look that "Scumbag Idiot" bullard just made 100% on BCLI hahaha seekingalpha.com/article/2283633-brainstorm-cell-therapeutics-inc-a-small-biotech-with-big-plans-and-huge-potential |
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Post by JHam on Jan 3, 2015 6:44:33 GMT
I forgot about that article. A re-read of it and Bullard was dead on about Tengion being in "dilution hell" (which eventually proved too much for the company to handle), about BCLI securing a favorable private placement, and about it being undervalued at $60M. It took a little while, but he showed he was ahead of the rest of the market who finally has started to catch on. Maybe this is what could happen for STEM too. |
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Post by actcforme on Jan 3, 2015 15:31:09 GMT
Twenty2 has had an in person 1-on--1 relationship with Matt, I believe limited to shareholder meetings in CA and I believe for at least 3 years. So Matt knows who 22 is, his phone, email, and personal credentials, DO NOT CONSIDER ME in your WE, I would rather be pissed on by an alligator. What you say WE want is short sighted and very far removed from my visiion of the best long term interests of patients and long term investors. "That goofball?"- who the hell do you think you are with this name calling. Proof read your posts so as to avoid projecting yourself in such a negative light. First, Happy New Year to all. I hope you had a happy holiday with your loved ones. I have to agree with stemboat, that the rude name calling was totally uncalled for, and IMO, against TOS here. How bout it JHam, or moderators. I have met John (22) in person and had e-mail exchanges with him. He is one of the kindest, most gentle people I have ever met in my life. He was so supportive of me in my dust up at iCell. He is the kind of person who would not say a bad thing about anyone. After the 2013 Shareholder's Meeting, he was really down with the entire tone of that meeting (GR knew he was on his way out and they couldn't wait to get that meeting over with). He said to me after the meeting "Patti, I'm really going to have to rethink this investment and just not post on the board for a while." He felt so discouraged, I gave him a hug and said "It will be all right John." John has been fighting for a Rights Offering for the longs for a long time. I am really bummed about your derogatory post, knowing John reads here. To know you is to love you Twenty2. I wish I could turn the other cheek like you do. Go OCAT... Patti |
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Post by vzveteran on Jan 3, 2015 15:46:22 GMT
I agree patti.
There was no reason for getting personal.
Apologies for not getting that sooner.
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Post by JHam on Jan 5, 2015 7:40:46 GMT
Twenty2 has had an in person 1-on--1 relationship with Matt, I believe limited to shareholder meetings in CA and I believe for at least 3 years. So Matt knows who 22 is, his phone, email, and personal credentials, DO NOT CONSIDER ME in your WE, I would rather be pissed on by an alligator. What you say WE want is short sighted and very far removed from my visiion of the best long term interests of patients and long term investors. "That goofball?"- who the hell do you think you are with this name calling. Proof read your posts so as to avoid projecting yourself in such a negative light. First, Happy New Year to all. I hope you had a happy holiday with your loved ones. I have to agree with stemboat, that the rude name calling was totally uncalled for, and IMO, against TOS here. How bout it JHam, or moderators. I have met John (22) in person and had e-mail exchanges with him. He is one of the kindest, most gentle people I have ever met in my life. He was so supportive of me in my dust up at iCell. He is the kind of person who would not say a bad thing about anyone. After the 2013 Shareholder's Meeting, he was really down with the entire tone of that meeting (GR knew he was on his way out and they couldn't wait to get that meeting over with). He said to me after the meeting "Patti, I'm really going to have to rethink this investment and just not post on the board for a while." He felt so discouraged, I gave him a hug and said "It will be all right John." John has been fighting for a Rights Offering for the longs for a long time. I am really bummed about your derogatory post, knowing John reads here. To know you is to love you Twenty2. I wish I could turn the other cheek like you do. Go OCAT... Patti I didn't even notice that post. I agree it is not right to name call and throw out unnecessary insults. Thanks for editing that out vzvet. Not sure how this is any different than when people insult my friend Bullard. He is one of the nicest people I know who has gone out of his way to help me on several occasions. I don't understand why name calling is rude and a TOS when directed at Twenty2, but almost encouraged when directed at Bullard. Name calling is rude regardless of the person it is being directed at. Just wanted to make that point. No need for anyone to respond. |
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Post by icellman on Jan 5, 2015 11:02:53 GMT
Jham-
Let's not get too carried away here about Bullard. What he has done to manipulate with his antics is and was not nice. I'm sure there are people who thought Benito Mussolini was a nice guy, but he wasn't. Before you get carried away, I'm not comparing Bullard to Mussolini, but surely you can see the point I'm making. Just because someone might be nice to you, doesn't mean he's nice in general.
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