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Post by morangie777 on Jan 8, 2016 17:27:33 GMT
98% confident they are required to extend. There was a post on ICELL where someone made that point and pasted the exact language from the contract. I'm sure you could find the language if you search the filing for "extend". Oak - And let me clarify that I'm 98% they are required to extend, but... I'm NOT 98% confident they're required to extend all the way until May 9th. Language wasn't crystal clear to me on that point. Correct. Astellas is required to extend the offer until May 9th, the "Outside Date". They can only cancel the offer earlier, if the Ocata Board agrees or recommends to shareholders not to accept the Astellas offer. A unilateral termination by Astellas before the Outside Date is only possible under certain special conditions, where Ocata violated the agreement.
www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1140098/000119312515381938/d45297dex99a1a.htm Page 39.
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Post by goldencoin9999 on Jan 8, 2016 18:46:42 GMT
Oaktree, it is NOT that Matt didn't care the last six months,, it's that HE WAS NOT AN EMPLOYEE since September, going on 5 months. This does not pass the smell test, that he did this on his own accord. I feel certain he is WORKING for Ocata and trying to scare shareholders that they should tender, that Astellas "probably" won't raise the price and Ocata is going broke. I would bet my investment in Ocata that he was recruited by Paul Wotton to do their dirty work, to scare shareholders into tendering, gave him the opportunity to tell icell/shareholders about his new company (which may go public), and as my husband said, probably even being paid a "consultant" fee to do their dirty work.
Shame on Matt for getting involved.
I am embarrassed for iCell members falling for this, and starting a thread there "questions for Matt." How are they so naïve -- Stockfodder???
If I was Belas, I would tell Matt, I do not appreciate being lied to and used for Ocata management's benefit, shareholders be damned.
I wish someone would copy my comments to iCell, with my full permission.
Not to state the obvious, but I imagine he owns/owned quite a lot of shares through his tenure and would therefore have some vested interest one way or another without being on payroll.... What interest? He no longer own any shares.
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Post by elk on Jan 10, 2016 20:24:48 GMT
I have had an epiphany this morning. We have been duped. If anyone believes that Matt contacted Paul for permission to contact shareholders AND answer their questions, then I have some swamp land in Louisiana I want to sell you.
Matt's "story" matches up with calls to shareholders by InvestorCom, Inc. I ASSURE YOU it was the other way around, that Paul contacted Matt and asked him to do this for them. He clearly must have left on good terms or they could not have done this.
I feel Belas has been duped to believe Matt wanted to "set the record straight" about why he left Ocata, rather he is working for Ocata management, being their mouthpiece to scare shareholders into tendering. If this were true, he could have done so LONG ago, why now?
I am outraged the more I think of this, that we have to have a FORMER EMPLOYEE, who was shut down from talking to us when he worked there, but now that he is gone, he is okayed to talk with us. They insult my intelligence and are disgusting.
I am shocked we are told "it's okay to send Matt more questions and he will answer them" -- A FORMER EMPLOYEE, who they would NOT let talk to us when he worked there, rather than Paul have to answer to shareholders.
They can kiss our collective asses. PAUL WOTTON needs to answer the shareholders' questions NOT a former employee they marginalized. These people are the gang that can't shoot straight.
“Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio A nation turns its lonely eyes to you (Woo, woo, woo)” In our current circumstance, the question for me is with respect to the two men herein with the highest reputations for intellect and integrity, Lanza and Langer. Where have they gone? …Why are we hearing nothing from them? Lanza has said “I am excited about the possibility of moving this early research into pre-clinical studies in the future.” but that could be interpreted in a variety of ways including being on a par with Austrian Chancellor Kurt von Schuschnigg thanking Hitler for taking over his country and leaves very open the possibility that even Lanza and Langer are not fully certain, even if Matt Vincent is, as to what is going to happen with respect to Lanza and his team including the very crucial issue of whether they will still have control over the direction of their ongoing research. If they are as certain as Matt about this why are they not coming out and saying so themselves. For all we know, Astellas may be on a Big Pharma endorsed mission to essentially close down or severely slow down the Ocata advances until Big Pharma feels it has gotten a much better hold on how to minimize disruption while getting into position to maximize profit from the coming new stem cell derived treatment era of medicine. Lanza and Langer have not said anything ruling this possibility out. Maybe they don’t really know but also, if so, shouldn’t they be saying that? Or do they feel their best hopes for the future of the science require silence even if they have doubts? If they feel in some kind of bind about speaking out, I was about to suggest, as I recalled the ACTC Ethics Advisory Board, that they make use of the members of the Ocata Ethics Advisory Board but, and perhaps it is noteworthy, Ocata seems to have dropped that Board. So it remans that I would like to know how Lanza and Langer, among others, are handling a possible variety of ethical dilemmas here. And more important than the still serious issue of what obligation should prevail to loyal long term investors, as well as investors in general, is the issue of how can they best try to assure the most efficient delivery of the potential Ocata treatments to afflicted individuals. I also have taken to wondering about how Lanza is fitting all of this into a biocentric universe.
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Post by vzveteran on Jan 11, 2016 19:18:32 GMT
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Post by imz72 on Jan 11, 2016 19:30:11 GMT
The PDF version includes the letter: content.stockpr.com/sec/0001193125-16-426258/0001193125-16-426258.pdfThe following looks new: "What does Astellas plan to do after the Acquisition is completed?
• Astellas has additional financial resources and infrastructure to invest in the Ocata pipeline. Applying these resources and infrastructure to multiple clinical and pre-clinical programs may advance projects that are not being developed and this could be beneficial for patients in need. • Astellas plans to create, based on the Ocata platform, a Center of Excellence in Regenerative Medicine, which could further develop research on regenerative medicine."
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Post by vzveteran on Jan 11, 2016 19:35:23 GMT
Looks like no more money from them atm. I would consider a stock swap if the ratio was reasonable.
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Post by vzveteran on Jan 11, 2016 19:40:09 GMT
I still can't understand why Wotton didn't shoot for a licensing deal. Japan had loosened their regs on regenerative medicine.
Wotton should have capitalized on that......... Astellas isn't the only Japanese company.
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Post by hansgruber on Jan 11, 2016 19:57:36 GMT
I still can't understand why Wotton didn't shoot for a licensing deal. Japan had loosened their regs on regenerative medicine. Wotton should have capitalized on that......... Astellas isn't the only Japanese company. Agree. Only explanation is because wooton and the rest of them are worthless, inept, lazy, pathetic, etc. Etc. Hell, athx just did a deal with their second japanese company. Makes no sense.
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Post by kukkido on Jan 12, 2016 2:29:45 GMT
I think, no one at OCATA is moving forward with anything because this deal is still pending. Dr. Lanza and his group are going into the office and working on their technology and platforms and the Management is probably watching this deal unfold. Put yourself in their shoes, if you knew a Japanese company is taking over, would you do any extra work to make this company move into the PHII trials, No. PW is probably freaking out because his Parachute isn't opening like its suppose to. The rest, Jouste and newly acquired BOD are just waiting for this deal to happen and anything else such as Results of PH I, are on hold. The only thing that is happening is----Nothing. I am sure PW doesn't really have a Plan B and MG put a crimp into the closing. Isn't there anyway we can have our own shareholders meeting with the company to discuss this deal. Maybe if the deal doesn't happen by Jan 21st, Management will be prone to release something, to show the SEC they are still working on the shareholders behalf. We are stuck. I say lets be proactive if the deal fails to garner the necessary shares by Jan 21st. Maybe a letter to Laurel and Astellas telling them what the shareholders will accept, like a JV and/or a price of $50/share. JIMO
Kukkido
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Post by actcfan on Jan 12, 2016 15:57:30 GMT
I still can't understand why Wotton didn't shoot for a licensing deal. Japan had loosened their regs on regenerative medicine. Wotton should have capitalized on that......... Astellas isn't the only Japanese company. Went for the quick buck. Proving he is a worthless CEO. I really feel that mgmt/BOD is failing in their fiduciary duty here. Shareholders didn't tender their shares by the Dec deadline. To me that is shareholders telling mgmt and the board that they are not in favor of the offer. The fact that mgmt/BOD are ignoring that is a failure of their duty to represent shareholders.
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Post by vzveteran on Jan 12, 2016 16:20:54 GMT
I still can't understand why Wotton didn't shoot for a licensing deal. Japan had loosened their regs on regenerative medicine. Wotton should have capitalized on that......... Astellas isn't the only Japanese company. Went for the quick buck. Proving he is a worthless CEO. I really feel that mgmt/BOD is failing in their fiduciary duty here. Shareholders didn't tender their shares by the Dec deadline. To me that is shareholders telling mgmt and the board that they are not in favor of the offer. The fact that mgmt/BOD are ignoring that is a failure of their duty to represent shareholders. First tender fail is a vote of no confidence in PW and the bod. Can we access the BOD minutes of the tender vote?
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Post by Wallace907 on Jan 12, 2016 16:58:27 GMT
I still can't understand why Wotton didn't shoot for a licensing deal. Japan had loosened their regs on regenerative medicine. Wotton should have capitalized on that......... Astellas isn't the only Japanese company. Went for the quick buck. Proving he is a worthless CEO. I really feel that mgmt/BOD is failing in their fiduciary duty here. Shareholders didn't tender their shares by the Dec deadline. To me that is shareholders telling mgmt and the board that they are not in favor of the offer. The fact that mgmt/BOD are ignoring that is a failure of their duty to represent shareholders. That'd be easy for me to believe. I suppose one way or another it would appear that they were ignoring shareholders, except for the fact that they are still indirectly telling shareholders off. Im just really curious to know what their cash position is. Are they intentionally not solidifying a back-up plan? I assume they have enough to get through May!
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Post by actcforme on Jan 12, 2016 17:05:27 GMT
I think, no one at OCATA is moving forward with anything because this deal is still pending. Dr. Lanza and his group are going into the office and working on their technology and platforms and the Management is probably watching this deal unfold. Put yourself in their shoes, if you knew a Japanese company is taking over, would you do any extra work to make this company move into the PHII trials, No. PW is probably freaking out because his Parachute isn't opening like its suppose to. The rest, Jouste and newly acquired BOD are just waiting for this deal to happen and anything else such as Results of PH I, are on hold. The only thing that is happening is----Nothing. I am sure PW doesn't really have a Plan B and MG put a crimp into the closing. Isn't there anyway we can have our own shareholders meeting with the company to discuss this deal. Maybe if the deal doesn't happen by Jan 21st, Management will be prone to release something, to show the SEC they are still working on the shareholders behalf. We are stuck. I say lets be proactive if the deal fails to garner the necessary shares by Jan 21st. Maybe a letter to Laurel and Astellas telling them what the shareholders will accept, like a JV and/or a price of $50/share. JIMO Kukkido
I have submitted two articles to Seeking Alpha on Ocata, one on Forward Looking Statements, and one on the science. I pointed out this very thing, quoting the 14D-9 Paul saying in employee Townhall Meeting "That until the merger, it is business as usual for Ocata and Astellas." I wrote "who for a minute believes that is happening?
They seem desperate to me to get the votes, Ted and Paul personally calling big shareholders and spewing their lies.
I agree if the deal falls through second round, Astellas either comes back with decent raise (or it will be turned down again), and if it fails third time, shareholders take charge, thanks to Aronson and Gabelli, and kick Wotton and Ted, Jooste (and Eddy Anglade in my opinion) to the curb.
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Post by actcforme on Jan 12, 2016 17:06:48 GMT
I still can't understand why Wotton didn't shoot for a licensing deal. Japan had loosened their regs on regenerative medicine. Wotton should have capitalized on that......... Astellas isn't the only Japanese company. Went for the quick buck. Proving he is a worthless CEO. I really feel that mgmt/BOD is failing in their fiduciary duty here. Shareholders didn't tender their shares by the Dec deadline. To me that is shareholders telling mgmt and the board that they are not in favor of the offer. The fact that mgmt/BOD are ignoring that is a failure of their duty to represent shareholders.
I have submitted two articles to Seeking Alpha, that I just finished some minor editing they suggested and resubmitted this morning. I address this very thing, their lack of fiduciary responsibility to shareholders tied into their quotes in so many meetings and presentations. Stay tuned.
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Post by actcforme on Jan 12, 2016 17:09:11 GMT
All of my quotes in the Seeking Alpha articles by Paul Wotton completely incriminate him from this Astellas action, saying he has enough funding to last to the end of 2016 and that 2015 his primary goal was "initiating the next file of our RPE clinical trial." WRONG -- primary goal was to sell the company for peanuts and I have called him out publicly for this.
Seeking Alpha has accepted the articles "pending minor editing recommendations" I just completed and re-submitted.
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Post by vzveteran on Jan 12, 2016 17:17:44 GMT
All of my quotes in the Seeking Alpha articles by Paul Wotton completely incriminate him from this Astellas action, saying he has enough funding to last to the end of 2016 and that 2015 his primary goal was "initiating the next file of our RPE clinical trial." WRONG -- primary goal was to sell the company for peanuts and I have called him out publicly for this. Seeking Alpha has accepted the articles "pending minor editing recommendations" I just completed and re-submitted. Hell hath no fury as Patti's transcripts! Forget dazzling them with BS...........Bury them with their own words........or Lack thereof..
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Post by dayanand33 on Jan 12, 2016 17:32:06 GMT
Went for the quick buck. Proving he is a worthless CEO. I really feel that mgmt/BOD is failing in their fiduciary duty here. Shareholders didn't tender their shares by the Dec deadline. To me that is shareholders telling mgmt and the board that they are not in favor of the offer. The fact that mgmt/BOD are ignoring that is a failure of their duty to represent shareholders.
I have submitted two articles to Seeking Alpha, that I just finished some minor editing they suggested and resubmitted this morning. I address this very thing, their lack of fiduciary responsibility to shareholders tied into their quotes in so many meetings and presentations. Stay tuned.
Thanks Patti. You have been meticulously compiling notes by transcribing the innumerable conference calls and presentations. I am sure you have made a compelling case against the management with so much of research material at your disposal. SA provides a wider audience and hopefully it will have some impact. It is such a pity to see robust science let down by petty management. If not anything, your article will provide some catharsis to all the actc longs ( or ex longs)
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Post by thechurchmaus on Jan 12, 2016 18:54:41 GMT
if this tender should succeed i would want to challenge the posted # of outstanding shares mainly to catch the naked shorts who would just disappear with ocata gone from the exchange.reports are claiming the are making billions.i would like some of that in damages to make up the difference 12$ plus 90% would make.may be some of the class action suits that are coming would include that?
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Post by JHam on Jan 14, 2016 0:24:03 GMT
Gary Aronson update. Sounds like he is getting ready to throw in the towel:
Gary Aronson asked me to post this for him.
We contacted over 50 potential bidders. We received over 20 outright NO’s. The rest are indeterminate. If we hear from any and can let you know, I will. We were treated courteously and professionally by almost every single potential bidder that we approached.
One problem that we encountered is that Big Pharma companies virtually always deal with eager Managements, not dissident shareholders. Another was our lack of any confidential data of any sort.
In my experience, Big Pharma investors are actually quite risk-averse. They would much rather pay billions for a company with compelling advanced clinical data, than hundreds of millions for an earlier-stage company. (Wasn’t this exactly why Ocata raised the $30 Million?) Its safer for their own jobs.
The timing close to the Holidays was also a problem, because many at most bidders don't work then (except maybe to finish up an old deal). Any responders likely would have contacted Ocata’s Management, to an uncertain response. We may never know if there were additional bidders or not.
Do I think this deal is underpriced? YES! Ocata Management’s previous presentations evidenced how valuable the Company was, but now, in the form of their recommendations and the much lower Ocata Projections of its 14D-9, a completely different valuation is being proffered. Do I think this stinks? Yes, I think it stinks to high heaven.
Do I think the Astellas deal should be stopped or other shareholders should refuse to tender? I have not sued to stop the deal and I am NOT willing to recommend anything to anybody else on this. The stock market seems to me to be collapsing, with weakness in EU, Japan and China and Janet Yellen raising interest rates. I think a Worldwide Crash is imminent and investors might reasonably take whatever cash they can get now, especially if they need it to survive. I do not know if the Gabelli Fund purchases are particularly meaningful, as, based on their public information, these funds might be looking to get just the difference between e.g., $8.43 and $8.50 in a short time.
At this point, I have not decided whether I will tender and/or take legal action. I am looking into this further. In any event, I cannot claim to anyone else that I have any other bidders at this time nor do I have any reasonable expectation that new bidders will step forward within the next 8 days. I encourage each person to think for himself or herself, check with his or her own advisors and act as seems best for his or her own interest.
Thank you for your support and good luck!
Best wishes,
Gary Aronson
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Post by elk on Jan 14, 2016 0:39:31 GMT
Gary Aronson update. Sounds like he is getting ready to throw in the towel: Gary Aronson asked me to post this for him.
We contacted over 50 potential bidders. We received over 20 outright NO’s. The rest are indeterminate. If we hear from any and can let you know, I will. We were treated courteously and professionally by almost every single potential bidder that we approached.
One problem that we encountered is that Big Pharma companies virtually always deal with eager Managements, not dissident shareholders. Another was our lack of any confidential data of any sort.
In my experience, Big Pharma investors are actually quite risk-averse. They would much rather pay billions for a company with compelling advanced clinical data, than hundreds of millions for an earlier-stage company. (Wasn’t this exactly why Ocata raised the $30 Million?) Its safer for their own jobs.
The timing close to the Holidays was also a problem, because many at most bidders don't work then (except maybe to finish up an old deal). Any responders likely would have contacted Ocata’s Management, to an uncertain response. We may never know if there were additional bidders or not.
Do I think this deal is underpriced? YES! Ocata Management’s previous presentations evidenced how valuable the Company was, but now, in the form of their recommendations and the much lower Ocata Projections of its 14D-9, a completely different valuation is being proffered. Do I think this stinks? Yes, I think it stinks to high heaven.
Do I think the Astellas deal should be stopped or other shareholders should refuse to tender? I have not sued to stop the deal and I am NOT willing to recommend anything to anybody else on this. The stock market seems to me to be collapsing, with weakness in EU, Japan and China and Janet Yellen raising interest rates. I think a Worldwide Crash is imminent and investors might reasonably take whatever cash they can get now, especially if they need it to survive. I do not know if the Gabelli Fund purchases are particularly meaningful, as, based on their public information, these funds might be looking to get just the difference between e.g., $8.43 and $8.50 in a short time.
At this point, I have not decided whether I will tender and/or take legal action. I am looking into this further. In any event, I cannot claim to anyone else that I have any other bidders at this time nor do I have any reasonable expectation that new bidders will step forward within the next 8 days. I encourage each person to think for himself or herself, check with his or her own advisors and act as seems best for his or her own interest.
Thank you for your support and good luck!
Best wishes,
Gary AronsonJham, why are you so sure this is really Gary Aronson? The timing of this and panic engendering statements like "... I think a Worldwide Crash is imminent and investors might reasonably take whatever cash they can get now, especially if they need it to survive. ..." seem highly suspect me.
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